The United Nations

[TELone]

What are your views on the UN? Do you think their powerless attempts to bring forth world peace in a world that will see inevitable demise is just a waste of time and money or do you think they actually have aided our distraught world?

personally i feel their policies are highly ineffective as is their entire organization. their attempts have good sentiments but always prove to be futile. add on.

[RM_3000]

What are your views on the UN? Do you think their powerless attempts to bring forth world peace in a world that will see inevitable demise is just a waste of time and money or do you think they actually have aided our distraught world?

personally i feel their policies are highly ineffective as is their entire organization. their attempts have good sentiments but always prove to be futile. add on.

Clearly, following World War II, the UN played a very important role in bringing stability to an otherwise clusterfucked Europe.

The problem, nowadays, is that one of the permanent members is always able to sabotage any significant humanitarian action proposed. At least John Bolton is gone. I can't believe that there is actually a Bolton more disgusting than Michael.

[furst]

To me it seems that they really haven't got their shit together. With enough time, money, and weapons, they could turn into something very major. They just haven't got the clout to do anything at the moment.

On another site someone once posted a list (I'll try to find it) of all of Kofi Annan's failures.. dude is a problem.

[TELone]

saying the un has never done anything good is just naive. but recently, they have shown a lack of control and authority, such as in rwanda or macedonia. if they wanna become a real factor in the the doings of the world they need to find some way to make leaders follow their resolutions

[Streetie]

i think they are coming from a good place. obviously they don't like israel. but they are inneffective.

[TELone]

honestly, i want to see israel and america level radical islam in the middle east. the UN just intervenes when they shouldnt. i almost equate the UN to the ACLU (of america).
dont even get me started on the aclu. it should be ended by using ricoh statutes, but thats a whole nother issue.

[furst]

On another site someone once posted a list (I'll try to find it) of all of Kofi Annan's failures.

Found it. I think this guy makes some good points and it's all pretty relevant in this case. Here is the entire post:

Here's the entire current list of Koffi Annan's failures:

Dutch Government resigns as a result of U.N. "peace-keeping".

U.N. fails to condemn slavery in Sudan.

The U.N. is even a joke in Sierra Leone.

Where was the U.N. during the massacre in Rwanda in 1994?

Where were they when Mugabe expunged all white farmers from Zimbabwe, and caused a famine that threatens to kill 8 million? Now they are talking with Mugabe about how to avert the disaster. What a joke!

They impede or war in Iraq, claiming diplomacy and inspections are the only answer. At the same time, they refuse to discuss the North Korea's brazen moves.

U.N. ignores more human rights abuses. This time in Iran.

U.N. takes over in East Timor, and then drops the ball leading to further violence and anarchy.

Remember those Buddist statues in Afghanistan that the Taliban destroyed? Well, you guessed it. The U.N. failed to save them.

The U.N. fails to protect those displaced by a civil war in Angola.

That's right. The U.N. failed in Kashmir, too.

The U.N. failed in Somalia.

The U.N. failed in Bosnia.

The U.N. failed in Israel.

The U.N. failed in Columbia.

The U. N. failed in Iraq.

Who the fuck is this asshole to rant and rave constantly about international law? Why does international law only apply to Israel? What the fuck is going on with Iran and their constant defiance of the UN? What about the most important fact relating to this issue? Hezbollah is completely fucking illegal! Not only are they an illegal militia but they are part of the Lebanese government. I blame Lebanon and the UN for this war. Had Lebanon and the UN done their job and cleaned up Hezbollah, half of Israel would be vacationing in Beirut right now. Instead, international law only seems to apply to Israel. Where the hell is Hezbollah's restraint? Why does Israel have to use a cookie cutter approach to violence while Hezbollah can fire indiscriminately into Israeli population centers? Stop the violence? How do you suggest Israel do that while missles are still flying into Haifa and Kiryat Schmona?

What doesn't cease to amaze me is Mr. Annan's unending criticism of Israeli actions. Why is it that the entire world protests when Israel takes action against terrorism against its state? Let me re-iterate this so it makes more sense.

What would happen if Mexico sent a team across the border into the US and killed 8 US soldiers then kidnapped 2 more? What do you imagine would be the US reaction to this kind of aggression? Try to imagine if it was your country and your neighbor did that to you. What would your response be? So many on the left claims that Israel's response has been an disproportionate one. I ask you then, what would you have had Israel do? Have you any idea how much death and destruction WOULD be happening now if it weren't for the level of restraint in place?

Where the FUCK are the protests against the hundreds of Iraqi's killing each other every day? Where the FUCK were the protests against militant Islam after 9/11? Where the FUCK were the protests against militant Islam after Madrid? After London? People have a very short memory. The invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq can AFTER 9/11.

[TELone]

^ exactly on point. the fact that over the summer rice, rumsfeld, and the UN cried foul and said israel was violating humans rights nauseates me. hizballah shoots rockets out of apt buildings but nobody has problems with that apparently.

[jacinto34]

It's a double standard. They don't want to be hard on Muslim extremists, because they will be considered racists by the entire Muslim population. People tend to stick by their own kind, even if they are blantantly wrong. Look at the outcry over the show 24. Muslims are all pissed off because it showed Muslims blowing up a nuke. Well, guess what, look at the overwhelming number of Muslim extremists engaging in terrorism. And, look how much of their hatred is pointing towards the US and Israel. The producers and writers or 24 would be unrealistic if they didn't make Muslim extremists the villians. All of the disclaimers they have ran saying that not all Muslims are bad doesn't change the fact they they will still bitch if someone points out an obvious, realistic fact. They want to kill white people and Jews.

[jacinto34]

Oh yeah, and back on topic, the UN is a mere shadow of it's former self. After WW2 they were extremely effective. However, it has since become a powerless political forum. Allowing idiots like Hugo Chavez and the president of Iran (I'm not even gonna attempt to spell his name) to go on their rants, and allowing their business partners (France and Russia) to circumvent any actions directed towards them. They allow China to block any action from being taken towards North Korea, which has been in violation of UN resolutions, and violated a deal established between the US, China, Japan and S Korea about a decade ago to stop production of nuclear technology. The UN was created to be the world police, and that has since fallen onto the US, and we continue to foot the bill for this useless organization that now causes more problems that it can fix. You may not have liked John Bolton, but I did. He gave those bastards a headache everyday by constantly criticizing them. Thats about the best job any can do in that organization. It' worthless, and we should cut all ties with it and watch it crumble.

[Flagged]

Black Bush Said it best-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oe9MdAe6rxw

[jacinto34]

HAHAHAHAHAHAH. Great sketch. Man, I miss that show.

"Go sell some medicine, bitches" - Black President Bush

Leave it to Dave Chappelle to say it how it is. The guy has more sense than ever news agency in the world.

[Streetie]

Hezb'allah is awesome. I support them completely. They are one of the last groups to really take it to the zionists and for that I comend them with flying colors.

Afterall, they are THE liberation group for lebanon. Can't hate on that!

[Talleyrand]

The United Nations is only as willing as its constiuent parts. Nations like China, the U.S., etc. can tell the U.N. to fuck off. If you're not one of those nations, you can still violate international law if you're an ally of a powerful nation. The U.N. merely replicates and amplifies alliances already existant.

[BEAST]

the UN is becoming less and less 'United'